Land Rover Rustorashun and other shit
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
Right the last couple of weeks have been a bit of an arse really!
Aegean Blue has been faffing me off big time to get the bottom of the "why wont you start? you bastard!" more of that later
First up, getting MoT fail points fixed, also fitting a new front exhaust and cat system and sorting the fiendishly heavy throttle peddle
After lubing the pedal pivot and the cable, I had to remove the plenum to lube the throttle body Found that the Red signal wire from the Throttle Position sensor was broken! This will not help urgency of acceleration as the ECU which is used by both LPG and Petrol for some reason relies on it and AFM to dictate fuel load Nifty zero cost fix was to file back the plastic moulding until I uncovered the three posts inside the unit. Then simply resoldered the wires. Result was now more urgent acceleration and dead light throttle but still have bunged up Cats Before I got onto that I had to replace one dead steering balljoint and one cap, which ended up also needing a ball joint because it was so close to being fucked it didn't make sense not to. Took the opportunity to relub all the threaded sections which have a good habit of seizing up solid. then off came the front exhaust section. Easy enough to do once the front anti rollbar is dropped out of the way. However on this car almost every fixing was bodged in one way or another. 30 minute job takes near 2 hours Here for instance is drivers side manifold which had bolts and a nut and bolt holding it together. Naturally the stud you see here is the remains of a broken bolt, It did shift after getting it to glow and then attacking it with a stud extractor and breaker bar! The rear steering drag link was also a pain, this is the nearside balljoint that needed a new dustcap. alas the joint was so loose that I couldn't remove the nylock, so ended up cutting it off! New mild steel front section of exhaust arrived from FamousFour, alas the Lambdas from the old exhaust do NOT fit this boss, they both fit the other boss on this system. FamousFour ordered another set and had them shipped to me, but a 2 day delay. This joint is always seized, it is one of two parts on the main steering drag link and is reverse threaded. I broke one of my grips by abusing it with a 4ft scaffold tube. Pair of stilsons did get it moving but it was mighty tight. Still at least the tracking can be set now. more to come
Aegean Blue has been faffing me off big time to get the bottom of the "why wont you start? you bastard!" more of that later
First up, getting MoT fail points fixed, also fitting a new front exhaust and cat system and sorting the fiendishly heavy throttle peddle
After lubing the pedal pivot and the cable, I had to remove the plenum to lube the throttle body Found that the Red signal wire from the Throttle Position sensor was broken! This will not help urgency of acceleration as the ECU which is used by both LPG and Petrol for some reason relies on it and AFM to dictate fuel load Nifty zero cost fix was to file back the plastic moulding until I uncovered the three posts inside the unit. Then simply resoldered the wires. Result was now more urgent acceleration and dead light throttle but still have bunged up Cats Before I got onto that I had to replace one dead steering balljoint and one cap, which ended up also needing a ball joint because it was so close to being fucked it didn't make sense not to. Took the opportunity to relub all the threaded sections which have a good habit of seizing up solid. then off came the front exhaust section. Easy enough to do once the front anti rollbar is dropped out of the way. However on this car almost every fixing was bodged in one way or another. 30 minute job takes near 2 hours Here for instance is drivers side manifold which had bolts and a nut and bolt holding it together. Naturally the stud you see here is the remains of a broken bolt, It did shift after getting it to glow and then attacking it with a stud extractor and breaker bar! The rear steering drag link was also a pain, this is the nearside balljoint that needed a new dustcap. alas the joint was so loose that I couldn't remove the nylock, so ended up cutting it off! New mild steel front section of exhaust arrived from FamousFour, alas the Lambdas from the old exhaust do NOT fit this boss, they both fit the other boss on this system. FamousFour ordered another set and had them shipped to me, but a 2 day delay. This joint is always seized, it is one of two parts on the main steering drag link and is reverse threaded. I broke one of my grips by abusing it with a 4ft scaffold tube. Pair of stilsons did get it moving but it was mighty tight. Still at least the tracking can be set now. more to come
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
Part 2
Brand new Old Stock Land Rover branded (Made in GB) track rod end, with no grease on one side.... ffs. This is the main reason I always remove the dust cap and check em before install Sorting out the headlight and rear wash wipe found the back of the washer bottle coated in crap. The closing edge on the nearside inner wing to bulkhead is missing. Advised owner and he will sort it One more day to MoT and customer is collecting in 3 days New set of exhausts arrived from FamousFour and neither old lamdba fits either boss! Checked everything again and established that old exhaust system cannot be Land Rover, neither Lambda is correct thread for land rover and the old Lambda boss is nearly 1mm smaller. Alas a complete fluke that both lambdas fit onto one boss on the first new system. Fucking hate egg on my face, grovelling apology to FamousFour and an order to Devon4x4 who can get me a pair of new Lambdas for later that day where I papped this beauty with checkaplate floors and idiotic wheels and lift. That and the high gloss paint, pretty sure all series should be satin finished were all that were wrong with it Sensible rules and regs on new cats which are tinsy compared to old, fitted them and lolloped down to Mr MoT happy that the car is behaving. MoT was passed and then the bastard would not restart. It did eventually and I drove it 7 miles back to base where it died again Diagnosis fully underway, mush of which was me rechecking stuff I had already done. LPG emulators sit between the injectors and the 14CUX ECU. These were removed and it started, oh oh oh This chap is the LPG brain, how many grinder sparks can you see? This is one of the 4 cylinder LPG emulators, something I concluded is wrong with the LPG setup and I couldn't get hold of my friendly LPG supplier because Saturday afternoon theres more
Brand new Old Stock Land Rover branded (Made in GB) track rod end, with no grease on one side.... ffs. This is the main reason I always remove the dust cap and check em before install Sorting out the headlight and rear wash wipe found the back of the washer bottle coated in crap. The closing edge on the nearside inner wing to bulkhead is missing. Advised owner and he will sort it One more day to MoT and customer is collecting in 3 days New set of exhausts arrived from FamousFour and neither old lamdba fits either boss! Checked everything again and established that old exhaust system cannot be Land Rover, neither Lambda is correct thread for land rover and the old Lambda boss is nearly 1mm smaller. Alas a complete fluke that both lambdas fit onto one boss on the first new system. Fucking hate egg on my face, grovelling apology to FamousFour and an order to Devon4x4 who can get me a pair of new Lambdas for later that day where I papped this beauty with checkaplate floors and idiotic wheels and lift. That and the high gloss paint, pretty sure all series should be satin finished were all that were wrong with it Sensible rules and regs on new cats which are tinsy compared to old, fitted them and lolloped down to Mr MoT happy that the car is behaving. MoT was passed and then the bastard would not restart. It did eventually and I drove it 7 miles back to base where it died again Diagnosis fully underway, mush of which was me rechecking stuff I had already done. LPG emulators sit between the injectors and the 14CUX ECU. These were removed and it started, oh oh oh This chap is the LPG brain, how many grinder sparks can you see? This is one of the 4 cylinder LPG emulators, something I concluded is wrong with the LPG setup and I couldn't get hold of my friendly LPG supplier because Saturday afternoon theres more
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
Looks like great fun* sorting that pile of stuff.
Reminds me of getting what seemed like an endless collection of RR waterpumps trying to work out why they didn't fit the RR lump in my Lt/Wt. I eventually worked out it was an RR block that'd got P6 timing cases etc fitted to make it shorter.
Reminds me of getting what seemed like an endless collection of RR waterpumps trying to work out why they didn't fit the RR lump in my Lt/Wt. I eventually worked out it was an RR block that'd got P6 timing cases etc fitted to make it shorter.
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
Part 3
Reintsalled all LPG and it wouldn't start, removed all LPG and it wouldnt start! haunted car. Cancelled customer collection Fuel tank is a slave unit that fits besides drivers chassis rail. not the safest thing out there and it leaks too. Initial tests concluded that the pressure regulator on the fuel injector rail was doing nothing so I ordered one. In the meantime I got back onto Sandy the Landy bulkhead, filled, sanded and primed the outside. This is now ready for a top coat this week This thing is going to look a lot better by the end of next week New regulator arrived in a box of blue joy and wonderment. Fitted and the car fired right up. purring away. Restarted a few times and concluded that the issue was fixed. Then it wouldn't fucking start again! Dropped the tank to check on connections. Tried to run the tank dry using the pump and it was sucking air so assumed it was. 11 litres later and it was empty, Pondlife are operating nearby so I took precaution of further securing dad's IIa with this little bastard. More of a visual deterrent than a determined thief but still tested pump on the bench using water and it had a serious prostrate problem. Found the bowl full of rust lumps and the filter on the bottom of the pump solid with rust. Here it is after cleaning and removing the filter ended up with a fully functional pump that works well under pressure. Have ordered a new pump filter and some Slosh to seal both the bare steel faces inside the tank and the hole. These pumps were never fitted to steel tanks to my knowledge
Reintsalled all LPG and it wouldn't start, removed all LPG and it wouldnt start! haunted car. Cancelled customer collection Fuel tank is a slave unit that fits besides drivers chassis rail. not the safest thing out there and it leaks too. Initial tests concluded that the pressure regulator on the fuel injector rail was doing nothing so I ordered one. In the meantime I got back onto Sandy the Landy bulkhead, filled, sanded and primed the outside. This is now ready for a top coat this week This thing is going to look a lot better by the end of next week New regulator arrived in a box of blue joy and wonderment. Fitted and the car fired right up. purring away. Restarted a few times and concluded that the issue was fixed. Then it wouldn't fucking start again! Dropped the tank to check on connections. Tried to run the tank dry using the pump and it was sucking air so assumed it was. 11 litres later and it was empty, Pondlife are operating nearby so I took precaution of further securing dad's IIa with this little bastard. More of a visual deterrent than a determined thief but still tested pump on the bench using water and it had a serious prostrate problem. Found the bowl full of rust lumps and the filter on the bottom of the pump solid with rust. Here it is after cleaning and removing the filter ended up with a fully functional pump that works well under pressure. Have ordered a new pump filter and some Slosh to seal both the bare steel faces inside the tank and the hole. These pumps were never fitted to steel tanks to my knowledge
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
and it would also have shorter oil pumps with different connector for the distributor driveHooli wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:34 pm Looks like great fun* sorting that pile of stuff.
Reminds me of getting what seemed like an endless collection of RR waterpumps trying to work out why they didn't fit the RR lump in my Lt/Wt. I eventually worked out it was an RR block that'd got P6 timing cases etc fitted to make it shorter.
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
anyway the feature length video of this whole debacle is here
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
I never went that deep to need to know that.richardthestag wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:47 pmand it would also have shorter oil pumps with different connector for the distributor driveHooli wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:34 pm Looks like great fun* sorting that pile of stuff.
Reminds me of getting what seemed like an endless collection of RR waterpumps trying to work out why they didn't fit the RR lump in my Lt/Wt. I eventually worked out it was an RR block that'd got P6 timing cases etc fitted to make it shorter.
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
I'm done, me. Tracking needed only a tiny tweak after lining the front wheels up with the rear ones. If you can get it that good with my shit eyesight you young buckeroos don't need to waste money on that laser bollocks.
Am delighted with the steering now that all the ballpoints are replaced. The steering linkage was all wrong and the relay arms not correct relative to each other, so now that it's sorted it's like driving a new vehicle. People find series Landrover's are complete shit to drive because they're usually in such a state by the time they get hold of one. It's now only moderately awful.- LynehamHerc
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
I really did think T2s were all fucking awful. Until I drove a correctly original (automatic) US market Westfalia - what a revelation! Unless it was just 'cos LHD of course!
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