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mercrocker · Post by **mercrocker** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:18 pm

Peugeot 306?

Post by **Warren t claim** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:56 pm

What mainstream cars can you buy that still don't have PAS?

bub2006 · Post by **bub2006** » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:03 am

I think they all have now. Pas has been a given for at least ten years. I think with modern car regulations they all now have to have certain things. I think abs,brake distribution,pas, auto braking and numerous air bags are all now par for the course. No wonder there is no driver skill anymore.

AutoshiteBoy · Post by **AutoshiteBoy** » Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:14 am

I think there is only the Lotus Elise left without hydraulic assistance.

bub2006 · Post by **bub2006** » Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:55 am

AutoshiteBoy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:14 am I think there is only the Lotus Elise left without hydraulic assistance.

I wouldnt class that as more mainstream though.

mercrocker · Post by **mercrocker** » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:31 am

I remember one of Mrs Rocker's friends having a non-PAS Ka but was sufficiently dis-interested to remember the age of it.

NorfolkNWeigh · Post by **NorfolkNWeigh** » Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:08 am

Warren t claim wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:56 pm What mainstream cars can you buy that still don't have PAS?

Don’t know, but you’ve reminded me of that common auction pastime in the 90’s ; reaching through the drivers window of Rover 2/400s and moving the wheel to see if it’d got the optional PAS . I once got a nice 214 SLi for me Ma and when I did the reach and rock the wheel, pretended it hadn’t ! Don’t know if my shake of the head and retreat to the back before bidding put anybody off or not, but I was a tight bastard then as well , so it must have been cheap.

mercrocker · Post by **mercrocker** » Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:13 am

Somebody pulled a similar trick on a p/x W123 280E I was after - been in before me, made noises about buying it and went off to get cash. I gave it a go and it wasn't running right. Sure enough - two swopped leads. There were auction tales in our local block about fellas making things stall on purpose, pulling vacuum pipes and the like.

Post by **paulplom** » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:26 pm

Gf's mk1 mx5 didn't have power steering. That was a P reg, '96 or '97

cros · Post by **cros** » Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:21 pm

That motorised plastic bag, the electric Ami, has unassisted steering and already a journalist complained that it robbed it of 'directness'. Some ride on lawnmowers even have power steering, unsurprising when youngsters lack the energy to pull their own kecks up fully.

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