EML and Mot

[christine]

I've just read a petrol car made before 1st july 2003 with an eml on, doesn't get a fail , just an advisory ..Is that true ??


http://cardealermagazine.co.uk/forum/to ... mot-rules/


and

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/answ ... -flashing-

[christine]

Testers manual only says about pre 2008 diesels are exempt

[Eddie Honda]

Yup, it's true. Tester manual if you read it properly...

[Quote]Engine malfunction indicator lamp (engine management light or ‘EML’)
Turn on the ignition and check that the engine malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) illuminates and then goes off. On some vehicles it will be necessary to start the engine before the MIL goes off.

You need to inspect MIL fitted to:

• petrol vehicles with 4 or more wheels, not more than 8 passenger seats in addition to the driver’s seat and first used on or after 1 July 2003

• petrol vehicles with 4 or more wheels, more than 8 passenger seats in addition to the driver’s seat and first used on or after 1 July 2008

• gas and bi-fuel vehicles with 4 or more wheels, not more than 8 passenger seats in addition to the driver’s seat and first used on or after 1 July 2008

Kit cars, amateur built vehicles and American pickups are not required to be fitted with an engine MIL.

[christine]

How many older ones have been failed i wonder.. ? 2nd paragraph 2008 /\ /\ should say diesel ?


What about ABS light ?

[Eddie Honda]

No second paragraph is for MORE than 8 seats. It's from the spark ignition section of the manual.

[Eddie Honda]

What about ABS light ?

That old chestnut.

The two defects it can be pulled up on are:

• (a) Warning device not working (Major)

• (b) Warning device shows system malfunction (Major)

If it comes on (works) goes out (doesn't show a system malfunction) and stays out, then it's a pass. Bear in mind it can be removed ("whole system") if pre 1 January 2010.

If the ABS has been intentionally rendered inoperative, the whole system must be removed. This does not apply to sensor rings or other ABS components which are an integral part of another component, such as a brake disc or drive shaft.

It’s not permissible to remove or disable the ABS from a vehicle first used on or after 1 January 2010.

[christine]

Ta Eddie !

[Eddie Honda]

Before you ask about airbag lights...

2. Supplementary Restraint Systems (SRS) lamps
When testing SRS MIL (Malfunction Indicator Light) lamps we are only looking to see if the lamp indicates if there is a fault with the system. If no lamp is present or it doesn’t illuminate then it can’t indicate a system fault, so it can’t be failed. Some vehicles may also incorporate warning messages on dash board displays; these are in addition to any MIL lamps and should not be used as a reason for rejection.

Where passenger air bags are present it is also often possible to disarm them, or they may automatically disarm where there is little or no weight on the passenger seat. This may be accompanied by a lamp permanently on to highlight the airbag has been disarmed, this is not considered a SRS MIL, and therefore isn’t a reason for rejection.

https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/co ... t-testers/

Other than that airbag can fail if

(a) An airbag fitted as original equipment obviously missing (Major)
(c) An airbag obviously inoperative (Major)

but not if

A passenger airbag that is switched off is not a defect.

[SiC]

After 2003 is when Renault mostly sorted the electrical niggles* on the Laguna II and Mégane II.

[CLINT]

Just take the bulb out or tape over it,