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Re: Ford focus mk1

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:12 pm
by treehugger
Poor workman blames his tools.

Re: Ford focus mk1

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:19 pm
by paulplom
Well within my rights too.

Re: Ford focus mk1

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:33 pm
by bub2006
Having had lots of dealings with more modern fords,not just transits but MK2 onwards focus with the 136 2.0 tdci/hdi,Kuga diesel,later mondeos etc they all seem to have issues of some sort. A Kuga my friend swapped an engine in for a customer who lacks any mechanical sympathy and the cambelt snapped on it. He sourced a lower mileage engine of the same spec (140 bhp diesel) from another ford and fitted it for them. Within a few months it's having dpf issues and other electrical issues,the only part of that car that isn't original is the bare block. Injectors, ancillaries,wiring harness,turbo etc is all original with I think 95k on clock but no mechanical knowledge nor giving a shit about the car means it doesn't regen the dpf properly. Another customer has an s max with electrical issues and that's maintained meticulously and a galaxy that's also well maintained but shit loads of issues.
I was offered a 2009 ford Mondeo tdci a month ago by a customer of his. Needed an alternator and battery but the old boy was giving up driving and didn't want to spend on it. Said I could have it for 500 but I turned it down as again I wouldn't trust it as much being a modern ish diesel.

Re: Ford focus mk1

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:01 pm
by LynehamHerc
Our 2007 Diesel Galaxy was fine until the seams decided to let enough water in to have a paddling pool all across the cabin. That wrote it off at 35,000 miles or so as even after spending several k just on parts they wouldn't be able to warranty its roadworthiness.

Re: Ford focus mk1

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:11 pm
by bub2006
Anything over the past 15 years or so are pretty much throwaway items when the bills start coming. First owner is fine due to warranty. Second owner may get a few small niggles and chops it in at the auction,third owner comes along and gets a 15 plate motor for 1500 quid is happy Larry until it goes tits up.

Re: Ford focus mk1

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:20 pm
by paulplom
The hard part is knowing when to stop spending on it.

Re: Ford focus mk1

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:13 pm
by Eddie Honda
paulplom wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:20 pm The hard part is knowing when to stop spending on it.
It's easy. You just keep spending through the trough in value.

Re: Ford focus mk1

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:32 pm
by The Reverend Bluejeans
bub2006 wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:33 pm Having had lots of dealings with more modern fords,not just transits but MK2 onwards focus with the 136 2.0 tdci/hdi,Kuga diesel,later mondeos etc they all seem to have issues of some sort. A Kuga my friend swapped an engine in for a customer who lacks any mechanical sympathy and the cambelt snapped on it. He sourced a lower mileage engine of the same spec (140 bhp diesel) from another ford and fitted it for them. Within a few months it's having dpf issues and other electrical issues,the only part of that car that isn't original is the bare block. Injectors, ancillaries,wiring harness,turbo etc is all original with I think 95k on clock but no mechanical knowledge nor giving a shit about the car means it doesn't regen the dpf properly. Another customer has an s max with electrical issues and that's maintained meticulously and a galaxy that's also well maintained but shit loads of issues.
I was offered a 2009 ford Mondeo tdci a month ago by a customer of his. Needed an alternator and battery but the old boy was giving up driving and didn't want to spend on it. Said I could have it for 500 but I turned it down as again I wouldn't trust it as much being a modern ish diesel.
See also:

Every other modern diesel.

A 2009 Mondeo will be borderline scrap. It'll be as rusty as an old horseshoe underneath and, like every other bastarding Mondeo, they are an absolute CUNT to work on.

Re: Ford focus mk1

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:51 pm
by bub2006
The Reverend Bluejeans wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:32 pm
bub2006 wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:33 pm Having had lots of dealings with more modern fords,not just transits but MK2 onwards focus with the 136 2.0 tdci/hdi,Kuga diesel,later mondeos etc they all seem to have issues of some sort. A Kuga my friend swapped an engine in for a customer who lacks any mechanical sympathy and the cambelt snapped on it. He sourced a lower mileage engine of the same spec (140 bhp diesel) from another ford and fitted it for them. Within a few months it's having dpf issues and other electrical issues,the only part of that car that isn't original is the bare block. Injectors, ancillaries,wiring harness,turbo etc is all original with I think 95k on clock but no mechanical knowledge nor giving a shit about the car means it doesn't regen the dpf properly. Another customer has an s max with electrical issues and that's maintained meticulously and a galaxy that's also well maintained but shit loads of issues.
I was offered a 2009 ford Mondeo tdci a month ago by a customer of his. Needed an alternator and battery but the old boy was giving up driving and didn't want to spend on it. Said I could have it for 500 but I turned it down as again I wouldn't trust it as much being a modern ish diesel.
See also:

Every other modern diesel.

A 2009 Mondeo will be borderline scrap. It'll be as rusty as an old horseshoe underneath and, like every other bastarding Mondeo, they are an absolute CUNT to work on.
I agree. Alot of modern diesels are a throwaway item now. Regards mondeos,I remember my x plate being a cunt of a job to do alternator on. The one I've got now I've no idea how bad it is to work on,engine bay looks alright compared to a diesel of same age and seems bigger than its predecessor.

Re: Ford focus mk1

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:09 pm
by SiC
I know two colleagues with modern Fords and ABS pump issues. One (2010) got a scrap part and had it replaced. Another with a 2015 had the dealer replace it. They screwed up the software update when coding the new pump and bricked the car. Ended up getting a Ford HQ bod in to sort the mess.