Sics Consolidated Faded Moderns Thread - 2004 BMW Z4 2.2 & 2005 BMW 330i

[Eddie Honda]

Whether it should have one or a flooded pack seems to be debated online.

What does the build sheet say?

[SiC]

Whether it should have one or a flooded pack seems to be debated online.

What does the build sheet say?

Where do I find that? I only have the equipment list sheet. But afaik that's just stuff over base build?

[Eddie Honda]

Whether it should have one or a flooded pack seems to be debated online.

What does the build sheet say?

Where do I find that? I only have the equipment list sheet. But afaik that's just stuff over base build?

Had this conversation with regards to an AGM battery or not on a E91 and coding. Build list stated AGM fitted at factory.


Try sifting below. I've had build sheets for both PSA cars, but the miserable shites made even the parts section of the Servicebox subscription.


https://www.benzworld.org/threads/is-it ... n.3048898/

[SiC]

Can't see anything mentioned

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Model	E 320
Engine	112949 31 64****
Transmission	722618 04 79****
Order Number	0 3 537 5****
Order Location	GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND
Production Number	758****
Interior	AMARETTA/LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE - GRAY (838A)
Paint 1	PERLITE GRAY METALLIC FINISH (747U)
Release Date	2003-09-17
Delivery Date	2003-09-18


Code	Description
205B	OWNERS MANUAL AND SERVICE RECORD - ENGLISH
213	SPEED-SENSITIVE POWER STEERING/VARIO STEERING
220	PARKTRONIC SYSTEM (PTS)
221B	SIGN COOLANT/REFUELING - ENGLISH
249	INSIDE AND OUTSIDE MIRROR AUTOMATIC DIMMING
250B	MOBILO LIFE/EUROPE SERVICE PACKAGE
275	MEMORY PACKAGE (DRIVER SEAT, STRG. COL., MIRROR)
287	THROUGH-LOADING FEATURE
289	WOOD/LEATHER STEERING-WHEEL
293	SIDEBAG IN REAR LEFT AND RIGHT
354	ANTENNA FOR TELEPHONE D/E-NET
380	COMPLETE CELL PHONE PREINSTALLATION
423	5-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
461	INSTRUMENT WITH MILES IND. AND ENGLISH LEGEND
500	OUTSIDE REAR VIEW MIRROR LH AND RH FOLDING
527	COMAND DVD APS WITH NAVIGATION
537L	GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND
543	SUN VISOR WITH MAKE-UP MIRROR L. AND R., BE-
551	ANTI-THEFT/ANTI-BREAK-IN WARNING SYSTEM
573	CHILD SEAT MOUNTING, ISOFIX IN REAR
581	AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL
5XXL	EUROPE
600	HEADLAMPS - CLEANING EQUIPMENT
616	BI-XENON HEADLICHT W.ACTVIE CURVELIGHT LEFT-DRIVE
668	PRODUCT PROT.F.TRANSPORT VEH. W/ TIE-DOWN HOOKS
672	LIGHT-ALLOY-WHEEL 5-STAR DESIGN
690	EMERGENCY SPARE TIRE (MINI SPARE)
747U	PERLITE GRAY METALLIC FINISH
804	YEAR OF MODIFICATION
819	CD CHANGER
830A	AMARETTA/LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE
838A	AMARETTA/LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE - GRAY
840	DARK TINTED GLASS
844	FOLDING BENCH SEAT IN CARGO AREA INCL. 2 AUTO -
872	REAR SEAT BENCH HEATING LEFT UND RIGHT
873	SEAT HEATER FOR LEFT AND RIGHT FRONT SEATS
875	HEATED SCREEN WASH SYSTEM
882	INTERIOR SAFEGUARD
910	DYNAMO WITH HIGHER CAPACITY (FFO)
915	FUEL TANK WITH LARGER CAPACITY
926	EXHAUST GAS CLEANING WITH EURO 4 TECHNOLOGY
942	LOAD COMPARTMENT PACKAGE
955	EQUIPMENT PACKAGE ELEGANCE
984	COC DOC., DELETION OF VEHICLE REGISTRATION DOC.
989	IDENTIFICATION LABEL UNDER WINDSHIELD
M112	V6-GASOLINE ENGINE M112
M32	CAPACITY 3,2 LITER
U16	STOWAGE TANK BEHIND REAR SEAT BACKREST

[SiC]

Tbh even if it did say AGM, realistically that alternator charge voltage is still too low either way.

[SiC]

This is interesting:
https://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/inde ... ars.23630/

E CLASS -211 series- saloon and estates: -

All steel panels were galvanised from Quarter 1, 2003, production onwards.
During the previous quarter (Q4, 2002) the process was gradually introduced on the production line and therefore some vehicles were galvanised during this lead-up period, but not all.

So my Sept 2003 build date suggests it should at least have been galvanised. Not to say it won't rust nor badly rust, but at least there is a mediocre level of protection underneath. Better than the W210 level that would have even made 70s BL management blush.

[mercrocker]

Have you tried the online production records? My technofliddery prohibits actual linkage but if you did a specific internet search a person of your savvy should find it. Downloadable and comprehensively notated, unfortunately it was on a Russian website which might now long have been hacked by Ukrainians but there may be a substitute. I found out about it via the excellent Mercedes 190E forum.

[SiC]

I did have a search but couldn't find any more out than the above that you get from the VIN checkers. Presumably they must have a database from somewhere that has each build list per VIN. Or querying the backend of Mercedes-benz.

Even if it had an AGM from factory, it doesn't get around that the alternator charge voltage is too low for AGM and correct for flooded lead acid. I don't have any diagnostic tools that can re-code Mercedes control modules, so even if there is a bit to flip, I can't do it.

Replacing it with a flooded will be cheaper than getting either someone else to do it or buying the tools to do it myself. Given the battery is likely damaged from low charging and also this hasn't done many miles in the last few years (~1k p/a), it's going to likely need replacing soon anyway.

[Eddie Honda]

I don't have any diagnostic tools that can re-code Mercedes control modules, so even if there is a bit to flip, I can't do it.

BMW motorcycle owners sometimes mod their alternators with a diode to increase the output voltage from the rectifier. Earlier bikes (pre-2003 ish) have non-AGM batteries, but often AGM batteries are fitted so the ABS module doesn't have a shit-fit due to low voltage detected. Not everything is flipping bits back then.

Or it's a good excuse to buy moar toolage.

[SiC]

Probably accepted that those with retrofitted AGMs won't fully charge them but on a bike there isn't much in the way of consumers to draw down a battery when not running.

With 48 control modules in that car running automotive software from the earlier days of highly networked vehicles, you've got to play by the rules to not have a really bad time. Unless there is a specific way to tell the car it has AGM, I'm not fiddling with the alternator output power.