Stellantis. Is it the 21st century global British Leyland?

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Do you think Tata has already tried to offload Jaguar to Stellantis for a nominal fiver?
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Lancia, it's been dead for years in my opinion and I don’t see this making a big difference.

https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/ ... -expansion.

I reckon Vauxhall can make decent profits and wouldn't sell as many under the Opel badge.
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LynehamHerc wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:35 pm Lancia, it's been dead for years in my opinion and I don’t see this making a big difference.

https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/ ... -expansion.

I reckon Vauxhall can make decent profits and wouldn't sell as many under the Opel badge.
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True, if it does it does.

But there'll still be decent volumes as Scotland has about 5m people compared to England alone at about 55m. Yorkshire alone has a bigger population than Scotland.
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Warren t claim wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:23 pm Do you think Tata has already tried to offload Jaguar to Stellantis for a nominal fiver?
JLR has done alright recently.
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Not in terms of profitability as it's forecasting a full year loss :

The British automaker, in its earnings statement for the second quarter, had forecast a positive cash flow for the second half of fiscal year 2023 and "near breakeven" for the full year.
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Exactly. Far better than it has been doing recently and not bad considering the current automotive market conditions.
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Jaguar should have tweaked the F Type to hit 200mph at launch and sold it for a base price of £30k. Then it really would've been the spiritual successor to the E Type.
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Warren t claim wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:03 pm Jaguar should have tweaked the F Type to hit 200mph at launch and sold it for a base price of £30k. Then it really would've been the spiritual successor to the E Type.
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AMCrebel wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:10 pm
Warren t claim wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:03 pm Jaguar should have tweaked the F Type to hit 200mph at launch and sold it for a base price of £30k. Then it really would've been the spiritual successor to the E Type.
And got Norman Dewis to drive it.
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